Are Cameron and Osborne's days numbered?

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We seem to have had a thread about Milliband and time running out for his leadership but now there seem to be more and more knives coming out for Vatman and Dobbing, I'll let you decide who is who?

It now seems more and more of their own side (Tory MP's) are openly speaking out against them........

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Nadine Dorries: David Cameron And George Osborne Are 'Arrogant Posh Boys'


David Cameron and George Osborne are "arrogant posh boys" who do not understand the lives of ordinary people, according to Tory MP Nadine Dorries.

Speaking on the BBC's Daily Politics programme on Monday, the MP for Mid-Bedfordshire was asked if she thought the prime minister and chancellor were out of touch with voters.

"Unfortunately I think that not are only Cameron and Osborne two posh boys who don't understand the price of milk," she said. "They are too arrogant posh boys who show no remorse, no contrition and no passion to want to understand the lives of others - and that is their real crime."
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/04/23/nadine-dorries-david-cameron-posh-boys_n_1445068.html?ref=uk-politics&ref=uk

Isn't it known as a by pass.

I for one moment thought you meant pathos instead of "bathos" OW.

Pathos----Sympathy and pity for those who suffer under these tyrants.

To add to the problems which seem to keep jumping up and biting Cameron in the ass yesterday it was reveled a group of his 2010 intake MP's have written a book, in which it is reported, that they claim British workers are lazy and more interested in having a lie-in.....

Tory MPs Accuse British Workers Of 'Preferring A Lie-In To Hard Work'

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/17/tories-say-british-workers-lazy_n_1796576.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Then you get this!

THE FIRST overnight shift in the 50-year history of Jaguar Land Rover's Halewood factory began at 9.30pm on Monday, sparked by a huge increase in demand for the luxury car brand.

Despite the economic gloom over Britain, the car-maker, owned by Indian giant Tata motors, is experiencing a surge in global sales of its Range Rover Evoque and Land Rover Freelander, forcing the plant to go into round-the-clock production.

Des Thurlby, HR director at JLR, told the Liverpool Echo that the switch to 24-hour assembly was a "huge achievement".
http://news.uk.msn.com/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=250908225

Shows how oout of touch they really are, and how dangerous they are to this country as a whole.

Mel wrote:"Mel, how exactly have I been "sucked" in ?. Who is this "None of you" you refere to ?"

Very touchy old fellow. In view of your -"feeling sorry" bit for Clegg, you seem to imply that you favoured him in the beginning and still do, even though it is plain to see as many have, that he is a Tory in sheeps clothing a "saffron blue" in fact. "none of you" refers to those who felt the same way about him as you did and went further than you and voted for the con man.
In my view, he would stangle his grandmother to get where he wants.

Mel, you are probably right. I just have no time for the lynch mob mentality displayed on here by a few.

astradt1 wrote:To add to the problems which seem to keep jumping up and biting Cameron in the ass yesterday it was reveled a group of his 2010 intake MP's have written a book, in which it is reported, that they claim British workers are lazy and more interested in having a lie-in.....

Tory MPs Accuse British Workers Of 'Preferring A Lie-In To Hard Work'

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/17/tories-say-british-workers-lazy_n_1796576.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

Are they trying to say they just don't love us anymore? That really would come as a surprise.

Ivanhoe wrote:

Mel wrote:"Mel, how exactly have I been "sucked" in ?. Who is this "None of you" you refere to ?"

Very touchy old fellow. In view of your -"feeling sorry" bit for Clegg, you seem to imply that you favoured him in the beginning and still do, even though it is plain to see as many have, that he is a Tory in sheeps clothing a "saffron blue" in fact. "none of you" refers to those who felt the same way about him as you did and went further than you and voted for the con man.
In my view, he would stangle his grandmother to get where he wants.

Mel, you are probably right. I just have no time for the lynch mob mentality displayed on here by a few.

Ok, which one of you has mislaid the rope, as far as i can see it tories don't need lynching, they are quite capeable of hanging themselves. Groves said they have only sold off 21 schoolplaying fields when the actual number is 31. Cameron says they are going to do more for school sports after we did well in the Olmpics, well not if Groves has anything to do with it, he is hell bent on selling school sports grounds. Unless hopscotch and tiddlywinks and I spy are going to be incorperated into the Olympic games.

bobby wrote:Ivanhoe. You asked me a question, which I answered in detail, now could you offer me the same courtesy and answer my question. If you chose not to please don’t ever ask me another.

bobby, please remind me of your question again ?

bobby wrote:Ivanhoe. Here are the questions for the third time of asking.

As a matter of interest, just who are this traditional Labour you are a supporter of, and what activities to you get involved in for Traditional Labour, and who is the Party Leader for Traditional Labour“?

Okay, First of all it was the Labour party I once knew and loved before Blair took Labour to the right.

The second question I cant answer on here, because it involves another site. I can only send you a PM.

And I cant understand your last question. IE "Who is the party leader for traditional Labour" ?. This does not make sense.

"And I cant understand your last question. IE "Who is the party leader for traditional Labour" ?. This does not make sense."

Aw Gawd!!!!!

Hello Mel mate. Several time Ivanhow has referred to himself as a Labour supporter and activist, Him saying that made me believe he is in fact exactly what he says. Then he talks about his belief in Traditional Labour, even to the point of calling Tony Blair and Gordon Brown Thatcherite, and doesn‘t have a good word for the Best Prime Minister in my Lifetime. All this leads me to believe he supports another Labour Party that I don’t know of, one that calls itself Traditional Labour, I was/am sure such a part exists otherwise how could our Saxon Knight be an activist, and if he is an activist for a political party, the said party must have a leader.
Adversely if no such party exists, just who is it he takes on the roll activist for. He doesn’t like New Labour and seems to dislike or distrust Ed Miliband (just my opinion). The point being (finally) is if he is an activist for a party, the party must exist and have a leader.

Now my bloomin' head hurts.

Hello Bobby.

bobby wrote:Hello Mel mate. Several time Ivanhow has referred to himself as a Labour supporter and activist, Him saying that made me believe he is in fact exactly what he says. Then he talks about his belief in Traditional Labour, even to the point of calling Tony Blair and Gordon Brown Thatcherite, and doesn‘t have a good word for the Best Prime Minister in my Lifetime. All this leads me to believe he supports another Labour Party that I don’t know of, one that calls itself Traditional Labour, I was/am sure such a part exists otherwise how could our Saxon Knight be an activist, and if he is an activist for a political party, the said party must have a leader.
Adversely if no such party exists, just who is it he takes on the roll activist for. He doesn’t like New Labour and seems to dislike or distrust Ed Miliband (just my opinion). The point being (finally) is if he is an activist for a party, the party must exist and have a leader.

bobby, I was an activist of traditional Labour before Tony Blair took Labour to the right. There is that better ?

A spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down.

Bobby, there are those (Mr/Mrs average)who love Cameron, those who love Blair and Brown. Then we have the Clegg lovers and that loud mouthed Charlie FROM UKIP (I CANT).
We then have those who hate them all, the "Traditional Labour" ones, the political fence sitters who wait to see which party's manifesto suits them, those who say "it's time for a change, even when the party in power is doing ok. Finally there are the gullible who don't know their ar5es from their heads.
There's nowt queerer than folk me tinks surr.

bobby wrote:Ivanhoe, Thank you for that. Can you see my quandary, first you said several times “I AM a Labour supporter and activist, now you are telling me that you “WAS an activist for traditional Labour. That certainly clears it up doesn’t it.
There is a massive difference in the meanings of AM and WAS, and I can only read what you write.

bobby, I dont remember writing in the present term, can you copy and past an example please ?

The thing is that I joined the Labour party in the 80's, strictly to fight againsat Thatcher and her miserable right wing policies, I was also happy to become an activist, what I am saying is that core values of the traditional Labour party are in my blood, fairness in everything, hence me possibly using the word "am" a Labour activist.

Also the word "am", could be, because I said in one of my answers to you that I "am" doing something off this site regarding traditional Labour, but that it would not be fair to this site's owner, Ivan, that I write about it on here, but if you wish, I will send the details in a PM, you may well be interested.

Hence me possibly using the present term, and not in the past tense.

Well now that's been cleared up, what changes do we think that Cameron should (will) make in the Cabinet re-shuffle when they all come back sun-bronzed, relaxed and envigoured from their Summer Hols?

Put out to graze will be Ken Clarke (Europhile) and Francis Maude (Pyromaniac). Anyone else ?

Osborne should at least be stabled but that wont happen. May may be the next but she may have to wait until may, may- b.

That twerp who organised the Oylympics could be another, who knows?

Ivanhoe said: bobby, I dont remember writing in the present term, can you copy and past an example please ?

Yes Ivanhoe, when I have time to waste, and whilst I'm at it, would you like me to peel you a grape.

Ivanhoe wrote Fri August 7th: I loathed Clegg signing up with Cameron, and as you know im a supporter and activist of traditional Labour so im definatly not Tory, but again, I feel sorry for Clegg, because in my view he did at the time what he thought best.

Thanks to my Grand Daughter for the search. Anyway Ivanhoe, here is one post where you are definitely in the present as opposed to the past, and this is one of several I personally remember.

bobby wrote:Ivanhoe wrote Fri August 7th: I loathed Clegg signing up with Cameron, and as you know im a supporter and activist of traditional Labour so im definatly not Tory, but again, I feel sorry for Clegg, because in my view he did at the time what he thought best.

Thanks to my Grand Daughter for the search. Anyway Ivanhoe, here is one post where you are definitely in the present as opposed to the past, and this is one of several I personally remember.

Yes your right. My boob. Sorry.

bobby wrote:Ivanhoe said: bobby, I dont remember writing in the present term, can you copy and past an example please ?

Yes Ivanhoe, when I have time to waste, and whilst I'm at it, would you like me to peel you a grape.

Funnnnnnnnnny.

Mel wrote:Osborne should at least be stabled but that wont happen. May may be the next but she may have to wait until may, may- b.

That twerp who organised the Oylympics could be another, who knows?

Sorry to spoil what remains of your week end, Mel, but since the Levison Enquiry, Jeremy *unt has been unassailable because Cameron's judgment was to leave him in post, as it was also Cameron's judgment to accept a Murdoch stooge as his Press Secretary earlier in the process. Dave is likely to find himself re-shuffled before long. Though of course there will already be a clone standing ready to fill the gap. Perhaps that slimy little Gove twerp.

I thought that the unt for *unt was still ongoing OW?

"Though of course there will already be a clone standing ready to fill the gap. Perhaps that slimy little Gove twerp."

Now that really would have goosed the end of my weekend OW. Insted I'v now got that monday morning feeling.

Mel wrote:Osborne should at least be stabled but that wont happen. May may be the next but she may have to wait until may, may- b.

That twerp who organised the Oylympics could be another, who knows?

You forget Mel most of the set up for the Olympics was done by the Labour party who managed to get them in the first place, the only thing Doris had too do was too claim the praise for the success of the games.

Yes Red. I was in fact referring to that Hunt prat.

Mel wrote:Yes Red. I was in fact referring to that Hunt prat.

I would not say that Hunt was a prat more like BRAINLESS WONDER.

All politicians days are numbered, as they always have been.

As soon as they displease the majority they are out and so the merry go round goes on.

polyglide wrote:All politicians days are numbered, as they always have been.

As soon as they displease the majority they are out and so the merry go round goes on.

The right wing have run this country for 30 years, even under New Labour, the British are not largely politically motivated, they donbt know what they have, until it's gone, so yes your right, the merry go round goes on.

Ivanhoe wrote:

polyglide wrote:All politicians days are numbered, as they always have been.

As soon as they displease the majority they are out and so the merry go round goes on.

The right wing have run this country for 30 years, even under New Labour, the British are not largely politically motivated, they donbt know what they have, until it's gone, so yes your right, the merry go round goes on.

In those 30 years they have made a dogs dinner every time the voting public have trusted them, now this is the worst they have managed to run the UK into the ground so please voting public do not vote Tory again, if you want a change try another party other than Tory.

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

polyglide wrote:All politicians days are numbered, as they always have been.

As soon as they displease the majority they are out and so the merry go round goes on.

The right wing have run this country for 30 years, even under New Labour, the British are not largely politically motivated, they donbt know what they have, until it's gone, so yes your right, the merry go round goes on.

In those 30 years they have made a dogs dinner every time the voting public have trusted them, now this is the worst they have managed to run the UK into the ground so please voting public do not vote Tory again, if you want a change try another party other than Tory.

No, the Tories have not made a dogs dinner of anything. The Tories have an agenda that they are ideoligically apposed to the role of the State, in favour of privatisation and charities. And they have succeeded thanks to the dimwits who vote for them.

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

polyglide wrote:All politicians days are numbered, as they always have been.

As soon as they displease the majority they are out and so the merry go round goes on.

The right wing have run this country for 30 years, even under New Labour, the British are not largely politically motivated, they donbt know what they have, until it's gone, so yes your right, the merry go round goes on.

In those 30 years they have made a dogs dinner every time the voting public have trusted them, now this is the worst they have managed to run the UK into the ground so please voting public do not vote Tory again, if you want a change try another party other than Tory.

No, the Tories have not made a dogs dinner of anything. The Tories have an agenda that they are ideoligically apposed to the role of the State, in favour of privatisation and charities. And they have succeeded thanks to the dimwits who vote for them.

I believe this post is what's called a hole in one Ivanhoe

Stox 16 wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

polyglide wrote:All politicians days are numbered, as they always have been.

As soon as they displease the majority they are out and so the merry go round goes on.

The right wing have run this country for 30 years, even under New Labour, the British are not largely politically motivated, they donbt know what they have, until it's gone, so yes your right, the merry go round goes on.

In those 30 years they have made a dogs dinner every time the voting public have trusted them, now this is the worst they have managed to run the UK into the ground so please voting public do not vote Tory again, if you want a change try another party other than Tory.

No, the Tories have not made a dogs dinner of anything. The Tories have an agenda that they are ideoligically apposed to the role of the State, in favour of privatisation and charities. And they have succeeded thanks to the dimwits who vote for them.

I believe this post is what's called a hole in one Ivanhoe

I dont know what it's called, I just know it's true Stox 16.

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

polyglide wrote:All politicians days are numbered, as they always have been.

As soon as they displease the majority they are out and so the merry go round goes on.

The right wing have run this country for 30 years, even under New Labour, the British are not largely politically motivated, they donbt know what they have, until it's gone, so yes your right, the merry go round goes on.

In those 30 years they have made a dogs dinner every time the voting public have trusted them, now this is the worst they have managed to run the UK into the ground so please voting public do not vote Tory again, if you want a change try another party other than Tory.

No, the Tories have not made a dogs dinner of anything. The Tories have an agenda that they are ideoligically apposed to the role of the State, in favour of privatisation and charities. And they have succeeded thanks to the dimwits who vote for them.

That is what I meant Ivanhoe, does not matter most people now KNOW that the Tories will always govern to there Tory IDEOLOGY and through that will always make a "BALLS UP" of anything they touched due to ideology.

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

Redflag wrote:

Ivanhoe wrote:

polyglide wrote:All politicians days are numbered, as they always have been.

As soon as they displease the majority they are out and so the merry go round goes on.

The right wing have run this country for 30 years, even under New Labour, the British are not largely politically motivated, they donbt know what they have, until it's gone, so yes your right, the merry go round goes on.

In those 30 years they have made a dogs dinner every time the voting public have trusted them, now this is the worst they have managed to run the UK into the ground so please voting public do not vote Tory again, if you want a change try another party other than Tory.

No, the Tories have not made a dogs dinner of anything. The Tories have an agenda that they are ideoligically apposed to the role of the State, in favour of privatisation and charities. And they have succeeded thanks to the dimwits who vote for them.

That is what I meant Ivanhoe, does not matter most people now KNOW that the Tories will always govern to there Tory IDEOLOGY and through that will always make a "BALLS UP" of anything they touched due to ideology.

The point I am making is that it's not a "balls up" to them. Their's is an agenda, there is no incompetence.

Ivanhoe said: The point I am making is that it's not a "balls up" to them. Their's is an agenda, there is no incompetence.

It matter not a jot if they think of it as a Balls Up or not, its what we think that trully matters.

What I think the Balls up is, the judgement they used when setting their ideological agenda.

bobby wrote:Ivanhoe said: The point I am making is that it's not a "balls up" to them. Their's is an agenda, there is no incompetence.

It matter not a jot if they think of it as a Balls Up or not, its what we think that trully matters.

What I think the Balls up is, the judgement they used when setting their ideological agenda.

"""its what we think that trully matters"".

Yes and herin lies the problem. We British largely dont "think".