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Post by Bunnyrunner Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:06 am

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Be afraid...Be very afraid.

For years, since his days as a Bullingdon 'yahoo', right up to his second term as London Mayor, BoJo has played the clown. Every time he steps into the light he slips on a banana skin and with a shake of his blond mop-top and a muttered reply, walks away with laughter ringing in his ears. The media treat him as a joke, the public treat him as a joke and his own party treat him as a joke.

However...

He has carved out some very high power friends in the City, won a second term as Mayor of our Capital City and amassed a personal fortune into the bargain. Hardly the actions of a fool. Far from it.
This is a man who has climbed the greasy pole of political power almost unseen and undetected. He has claimed he has no wish to lead the Tory Party but has emerged as almost the only natural successor to Tweedlecam. Senior Tories know the leadership is now a poisoned chalice and feel safe in letting Boris in the door. That is a big mistake. :albino:
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Post by witchfinder Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:40 pm

I hope that Boris does lead the Tory party into the next general election because he is literaly a one man media circus, he could be Norman Pitkin from the hillarious Norman Wisdom films, the Tories answer to screaming Lord Sutch.

Much of his popularity boils down to the fact that he is a bumbling politician / comedian, he just cannot be taken seriously, his comical demeanor with the mop of golden hair could be Ken Dodd with his tickling stick.

Some people will vote for him because of his eccentric and comical ways, but if he became the Tory leader, the press would tear him apart, they would question whether Britain could ever be taken seriously if he became leader.

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Post by Phil Hornby Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:07 pm

I was just wondering if anyone else who was mad and called Boris ever assumed a leading position in politics...

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Nah...it could surely never happen... Shocked
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Post by oftenwrong Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:24 pm

Adulterer, liar, blusterer and buffoon - though not obviously an alcoholic - so perhaps not a direct parallel.

But what the Nation is waiting for with bated breath is the reaction of Eddie Mair to Boris' reaction to their interview last Sunday.
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Post by Redflag Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:48 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:"...Boris' Daddy,,,"

It comes as quite a surprise to me that one can identify a Tory politician who actually has a father... Shocked


He might be Doris's Daddy !! but did he produce Doris ??, there is a lot of hanky panky goes on in their circles. Embarassed
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Post by oftenwrong Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:25 pm

Boris revives "Leader of the Pack"



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Post by Redflag Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:46 am

OW is this Doris being interviewed for his next job lol! lol! when the people of London sack him?
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Post by Phil Hornby Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:05 pm

Boris Hits a Bum Note...

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" I suppose a pluck is out of the question..."
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Post by Redflag Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:10 pm

Phil Hornby wrote:Boris Hits a Bum Note...

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" I suppose a pluck is out of the question..."

But PH he is a TOTAL BUM or the naughty word for bum.
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Post by sickchip Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:31 am

The problem with Eddie Mair's interview with Boris:

Selfishness, backstabbing, nastiness, and ruthless ambition are traits people admire, and aspire to, these days........unfortunately.

Therefore Boris will be afforded more respect by many for being a nasty piece of work.
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Post by Redflag Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:40 pm

sickchip wrote:The problem with Eddie Mair's interview with Boris:

Selfishness, backstabbing, nastiness, and ruthless ambition are traits people admire, and aspire to, these days........unfortunately.

Therefore Boris will be afforded more respect by many for being a nasty piece of work.

Do not misjudge the people of London sickchip, they have found out the hard way that everything he said to get them to vote for him in the Mayoral election plus his smear on Ken Livingston was all "Tory Lies & Spin" police stations closed cut in policemen/women on the streets so I tend to think he will not get the votes of Londoners noit unless you earn over £150,000 upwards then of course you will vote for the IDIOT DORIS. lol! lol!
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Post by sickchip Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:12 pm

I hope you are proved right, Redflag.
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Post by oftenwrong Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:24 pm

But what if Boris's Buffoon Act is not an act after all?
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Post by jackthelad Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:26 pm

oftenwrong wrote:But what if Boris's Buffoon Act is not an act after all?

I don't think he is capable of putting on act like that, otherwise he would be on stage instead of trying to be a politician. The only reason he got to be London's Mayor is because he was funny, and Ken Livingstone wasn't. Very Happy
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Post by Ivan Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:34 pm

The only reason he got to be London's Mayor is because he was funny, and Ken Livingstone wasn't.
Not entirely correct. Johnson "got to be London's Mayor" because 'The Evening Standard' is so far up his backside that you can read its headlines every time he opens his fat, lying mouth.
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Post by Redflag Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:20 am

Ivan wrote:
The only reason he got to be London's Mayor is because he was funny, and Ken Livingstone wasn't.
Not entirely correct. Johnson "got to be London's Mayor" because 'The Evening Standard' is so far up his backside that you can read its headlines every time he opens his fat, lying mouth.

Ivan was it the Evening Standard that also helped to smear Ken Livingston on the run up to the Mayoral election ??
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Post by Ivan Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:58 pm

Boris to spend £160k of Londoners’ money to ask why he’s not more popular

by Sunny Hundal

London Mayor Boris Johnson is spending £160,000 of taxpayers’ money to learn why more Londoners don’t think he’s listening to them. The aim is to raise “awareness, knowledge and therefore satisfaction with the mayor” - in other words, to find out how he can look more in touch and popular.

The annual survey of Londoners’ views in 2011 suggested 20% felt informed about the work of the mayor and the Greater London Assembly, compared to 37% in 2007. Len Duvall, Labour leader in the GLA, said: “At a time of austerity and deep cuts to our police and fire services, I am stunned that Boris is spending £160,000 on surveys to find out what Londoners think about him. What planet is he on if he thinks this is a priority? It is completely egotistical. Does this have anything to do with him going for a national seat in London?”

It isn’t the first time Boris has been accused of wasting money on vanity projects. He launched a ‘New Bus For London’, which cost over £11 million for the first five vehicles, and he blew tens of millions on a cable car ride across the Thames, which hardly anyone uses and which has to be subsidised by taxpayers.


http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/04/25/boris-to-spend-160k-of-londoners-money-to-ask-why-hes-not-more-popular/
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Post by Ivan Mon May 13, 2013 4:31 pm

More money wasted by that bloody idiot Johnson:-

How Boris fleeced London with his buses: total cost could exceed half a billion

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/05/13/how-boris-fleeced-london-with-his-buses-total-cost-could-exceed-half-a-billion/
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Post by Redflag Mon May 13, 2013 7:15 pm

Ivan I do not know why this should surprise you about Doris the Buffoon he is a Tory and all Tories are great at FLEECING the tax payer, and have done so in this gov't and in Thatchers term when she sold off OUR public services gas electric rail & phone ande what did we get S.F.A but friends and donors of the Tory party got bloody plenty.
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Post by sickchip Mon May 13, 2013 10:05 pm

Jo Johnson might be the more likely Tory leader rather than Boris.....
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Post by oftenwrong Mon May 13, 2013 10:39 pm

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Post by Redflag Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:14 pm

The contest has two stages. The first part of the contest allows MPs to choose two candidates from a wider field of contenders. The second stage allows the party membership as a whole to select one of these contenders as the new leader.
 
The new rules are radically different to the old process, used to select every Tory leader since Edward Heath. Before William Hague changed the rules to expand the role of the party membership, a contest was triggered when an MP notified the chairman of the backbench 1922 committee that he or she wanted to stand and received two nominations. The subsequent process involved a series of ballots of the parliamentary party.  
 
In theory the candidate with the fewest votes was supposed to drop out.
 
Does that vote decide the result?
Far from it. It will leave the remaining three MPs to fight on. MPs will keep voting until only two candidates are left.
 
This knockout stage is important, since MPs who back the weaker candidates in the first rounds will be free to support other candidates later on. Expect plenty of horse trading. Some defeated candidates may ask their supporters to back another candidate - but there is no way they can make this happen.
 
Votes continue to take place, on Tuesdays and Thursdays, until there are only two candidates left.
 
And what happens next?
Ballot papers are sent to every member of the Conservative party - around 300,000 people - and the two candidates prepare to spend their summer campaigning around the country.
 
Members can choose between the two candidates who survived the parliamentary vote. The one with the most votes becomes leader.
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Post by blueturando Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:13 pm

and your point is?

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Post by Redflag Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:37 pm

blueturando wrote:and your point is?

The same point your lot like to point out on how party leaders are selected cheers 
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Post by Ivan Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:11 pm

blueturando wrote:-
and your point is?
Typical Tory troll way of trying to derail a new thread; your mate is a dab hand at it, but it doesn’t work on this forum.  The point which Redflag is making is more than obvious to anyone who isn’t a halfwit.
 
When Labour elected its leader in 2010, Ed Miliband received a total of 175,519 votes:-
http://www.labour.org.uk/votes-by-round
 
When the Tories elected their leader in 2005, Cameron received a total 134,446 votes:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_2005
 
Yet the Tories and their media stooges like to pretend that Labour’s way of electing a leader is somehow less democratic. They also like to point out that David Miliband received more votes from MPs than Ed Miliband, conveniently and hypocritically overlooking the fact that David Davis polled more votes than Cameron on the first ballot of Tory MPs.
 
Cameron certainly wouldn’t get 134,000 votes now. Since he became leader of the nasty party, its membership has more than halved. The most recent estimate is that it has only 130,000 members in total:-
https://cuttingedge2.forumotion.co.uk/t848-is-the-tory-party-an-anachronism-which-should-be-disbanded
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Post by blueturando Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:31 am

I don't care how Labour vote in their leaders, that's their business...and to be honest any system that voted in Ed instead of David Miliband is all good with any Tory....half our job has been done for us already....Thanks Unite Smile 

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Post by Redflag Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:35 am

blueturando wrote:I don't care how Labour vote in their leaders, that's their business...and to be honest any system that voted in Ed instead of David Miliband is all good with any Tory....half our job has been done for us already....Thanks Unite Smile 
 
I could say the same thing to the big business that voted in David Cameron blue, with his choice of Chancellor who does not have a Uni degree in Economics but needs to start reading "Economics For Dummies", however he does have a 2 Uni degree in Modern History which means he will go down in Modern History as the WORST Chancellor EVER , plus with the nasty Tories being back their cuts to working people will help Labour no end at the general election in May 2015.cheers
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Post by Ivan Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:57 pm

blueturando wrote:-
I don't care how Labour vote in their leaders
That’s good to know, especially as this thread is about how the Tories choose their leaders. I’m sure it was started because we hear so many lies and distortions about how Ed Miliband was elected by union barons, especially by those who conveniently forget that the block vote was abolished by John Smith in 1993.
 
Labour has always been ahead of the Tories when it comes to internal democracy. Labour was electing its leaders in the days when Tory leaders used to ‘emerge’ from the Establishment. It was thought that elections were divisive, a strange idea for a party that participates in our democracy. It’s likely that Mrs Windsor appointed Alec Douglas-Home as Tory leader (and therefore Prime Minister) in 1963. Edward Heath was the first Tory leader to be elected, and that was by MPs in 1965.
 
Oh how Tories tried to milk the storm in a teacup in Falkirk (and we’re still waiting for your mate tlttf to explain his remark on 5 July that “apparently Unite has monopolised the last 9 out 11 Labour candidates”), but can they select a local candidate fairly and honestly? Even Thatcher was installed as the candidate in the safe seat of Finchley by some vote-fixing; I wonder if her wealthy husband supplied a little backhander?
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/04/margaret-thatcher-and-the-missing-votes/
 
The Labour Party was founded by the unions and has always had union-sponsored MPs. The Tories are the direct descendants of the people who chucked the peasants off their land and enclosed it, and they haven't changed in centuries. They're still a gaggle of greedy Eton boys who take care of their own.
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Post by Redflag Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:45 pm

Ivan I am very proud of my Labour roots at least the money the Unions give to the Labour party comes from honest hard working people that are in Unions to protect their jobs conditions and wages.
 
This however cannot be said for the Tory party, their money comes from SPIVS & SHYSTERS (bankers & hedge fund managers) and we all know how the bankers get their money BY ILL GOTTEN GAINS and 2008 is a good example of that practice, so kettle and black come to mind when the Tories go on & on about who funds the Labour party, at least they're not selling their country down the river with taking from the public sector and selling it on to the private sector to their DONORS in the private sector.
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Post by sickchip Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:29 pm

David Cameron - highly recommended to tory party headquarters by someone at Buckingham palace. Rolling Eyes

http://whoknowswho.channel4.com/clubs/Buckingham_Palace/stories/Dave_gets_a_job_-_thanks_to_friends_in_very_high_places

Nice to know we're still being lorded over and ruled by the elite classes. Carry on doffing your caps, people.
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Post by boatlady Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:45 pm

Nice to live in a true meritocracy -----
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Post by Redflag Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:09 am

sickchip wrote:David Cameron - highly recommended to tory party headquarters by someone at Buckingham palace. Rolling Eyes

http://whoknowswho.channel4.com/clubs/Buckingham_Palace/stories/Dave_gets_a_job_-_thanks_to_friends_in_very_high_places

Nice to know we're still being lorded over and ruled by the elite classes. Carry on doffing your caps, people.

Sickchip I only doff my cap to those that deserve it and this shower of ASS LICKERS DO NOT
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Post by oftenwrong Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:37 pm

The Silly Season is declared open

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Boris Johnson unveils giant cock in Trafalgar Square

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Post by Redflag Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:44 pm

Do you not mean that Doris unveils the biggest "COCK UP" ever, OW?
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Post by Ivan Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:56 pm

Boris Johnson, like Cameron, is a serial liar. Johnson has spent his whole life lying yet, amazingly, enough gullible fools still seem prepared to believe him. In the London mayoral election in 2012, he promised there would be no cuts to the fire service of the capital. Within months, he announced his plan to cut 10 fire stations and 580 firefighters. Yet he still insists that he is improving the service, while being unable to explain how he is doing so. Does he listen to the same idiots who tell us that cutting A&E departments improves the NHS?
 
When he was being questioned today, he lost it and muttered “bollocks” at a firefighter who was heckling him. He then told a member of the Greater London Authority to “get stuffed”. And this devious lying skunk has ambitions to lead the country! What is it about these rude and arrogant Bullingdon Club toffs which makes them have ambitions so far beyond their capabilities?
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/11/boris-johnson-firefighters-get-dismore_n_3905870.html?utm_hp_ref=uk&utm_hp_ref=uk-politics
 
 

 
Source: http://www.fbu.org.uk/?p=7159
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Post by oftenwrong Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:27 pm

Why are we so reluctant to agree with people who declare themselves our Natural Leaders?
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Post by Redflag Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:35 pm

OW we are not responsible for what the Tories think of themselves, but we all know what the public think of the Tories now.
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Post by Mel Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:30 pm

I am not sure of your optimism Red. Many of the public do not care who is in power as long as they are OK Jack and to hell with anyone else. There is an awful lot of political ignorance out there and the Tories know it and play on it.
I would love to share your optimism my friend but I know we are not there yet.
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Post by bobby Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:56 pm

I'm with you all the way there Mel, perhaps they should rename the present opposition party the In the shadows Government.
I must admit though it must be very frustrating for Ed Miliband on PMQ's, when the hyena Herr Cameron will not answer a question except with lies and made up statistics and spin. Ed must either find another way of notifying the public or give up on ever having another Labour Government. And he hasn't done his cause any favours by allowing Herr Cameron to pick the battleground as he has with the Union fiasco.
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Post by Redflag Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:50 pm

Thank you bobby never say never or where there is a will there is a way, to get the message across plus they will lose safe Tory seats due to HS2 going right through their little villages and some will lose their homes and business, plus all the people that have suffered from the Tory nasty bills bedroom tax, welfare cuts, and doing their best to privatize OUR NHS that alone should put anybody off voting Tory at the next general election.
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Post by Ivan Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:59 pm

Might people be stupid enough to vote Tory in 2015 if Cameron is told to "get stuffed" and replaced by his fellow restaurant-wrecker from the Bullingdon Club?
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Post by Mel Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:52 pm

I think and fear they might vote Tory irrespective of who leads them. The general public have been well and truly duped, being led to believe that all the unnecessary austerity measures and many other nasties meted out by a Tory administration, hiding behind a cloak of a so called Coalition saying they were "very necessary to get the country back on track"

With Osborne puffing out his chest on the pretence that unemployment is actually falling, when is the part time work and the zero hour contracts that are making the figs look good. On top of that the strutting peacock Osborne is boasting "growth". The public forget that Osborne has borrowed more than Brown and has had the benefit from the BOE with the injection of billions into the economy by way of Quantative Easing.

Unfortunately IMO they now see a government that is seemingly getting the economy going again. Seemingly the operative word here and it is enough to pursuade the fickle majority.

If Cameron were to get "stuffed", which is unlikely, the silly beggers would undoubtably vote for Boris because he is different and a clown and they love something different.
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