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Most likely result of the general election in 2015?
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Looking at the current state of UK politics what do you all think is the most likely outcome of the next General Election?
Personally I think Labour will win but not with a out right majority (as it currently stands at least).
I had a quick look and couldn't see another thread like this but if there is my apologies.
Looking at the current state of UK politics what do you all think is the most likely outcome of the next General Election?
Personally I think Labour will win but not with a out right majority (as it currently stands at least).
I had a quick look and couldn't see another thread like this but if there is my apologies.
Re: Most likely result of the general election in 2015?
Hopefully in the may election Redflag but you cannot tell with the fickle public can you?
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If the idiots vote the Tories into power in 2015, I forsee a Revelution by the many maybe something like the one France had in the 17th century stuart
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I cannot see that myself Redflag, as the british public are too mild and meek for that kind of thing.
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Re: Most likely result of the general election in 2015?
stuart torr wrote:I cannot see that myself Redflag, as the british public are too mild and meek for that kind of thing.
I think the UK public have taken a lot in the last 5 years stuart,and will not take any more they are at breaking point and who knows what they will do when they come to the end of there tether.
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More are committing suicide as it is Redflag, more likely way they will go.
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When will the people of the UK find there backbone and fight back stuart, some times you must fight fire with fire its time the TUC & STUC called a general strike that will stop the Tories in there path. It would also bring on an early general election but it will stop the tories DISTRUCTION of our public services NHS for one.
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I have no idea Redflag? the unions do not seem to want to fight anything these days.
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Re: Most likely result of the general election in 2015?
Only 129 days in which to obsess about the outcome of the next General Election.
The Scottish Referendum did not produce a definitive result, so a break-up of the Union is still on the board.
Next May, Prime Minister Miliband could be selecting his Cabinet - or the doomsayers could be telling us, helpfully, "I told you so!" as Cameron, Osborne and IDS continue to cut a swathe through the rabble who never voted for them.
Or we might find we have unwittingly adopted an Italian form of Government, with a kaleidoscope of conflicting views competing for attention.
Who wants a dull life, anyway?
The Scottish Referendum did not produce a definitive result, so a break-up of the Union is still on the board.
Next May, Prime Minister Miliband could be selecting his Cabinet - or the doomsayers could be telling us, helpfully, "I told you so!" as Cameron, Osborne and IDS continue to cut a swathe through the rabble who never voted for them.
Or we might find we have unwittingly adopted an Italian form of Government, with a kaleidoscope of conflicting views competing for attention.
Who wants a dull life, anyway?
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Not long left when you put it like that is there OW?
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Time will fly in after the New year is done & dusted stuart, I cannot see the majority of people of the UK voting Tory after what they have done to 90%-95% of people in the UK because the majority of people are after the blood of one of the Tory Ministers.
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Only one Redflag? now now that figure is slightly low is it not?
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stuart torr wrote:Only one Redflag? now now that figure is slightly low is it not?
You could be right stuart, after all there is only 1% of of the elite & wealthy ILKS
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let us hope it is a happy new year for the labour party then Redflag.
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Tony Blair: Ed Miliband will not win the general election because of lurch to the left
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/11318289/Tony-Blair-Ed-Miliband-will-not-win-the-general-election-because-of-lurch-to-the-left.html
Tell us again about the time you invaded Iraq with no support from the British electorate, Tone.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/11318289/Tony-Blair-Ed-Miliband-will-not-win-the-general-election-because-of-lurch-to-the-left.html
Tell us again about the time you invaded Iraq with no support from the British electorate, Tone.
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Out of touch - methinks
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Re: Most likely result of the general election in 2015?
Tony Blair thinks the labour party should move more to the centre instead of to the left to win the Election? what and become liberals
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stuart torr wrote:Tony Blair thinks the labour party should move more to the centre instead of to the left to win the Election? what and become liberals
Is that PROSTITUTE iberals or Tory Liberals stuart ??
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Redflag happy new year, as long as we take no notice of Blair.
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stuart torr wrote:Redflag happy new year, as long as we take no notice of Blair.
Does anyone, anymore? I think, by the way, that Labour can hardly lose if they want to win. I do sometimes wonder.
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Good job he is still not the Labour leader then eh Penderyn.
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stuart torr wrote:Good job he is still not the Labour leader then eh Penderyn.
And how!
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All he seems to do now is make money by making speeches slamming the party he once lead, why should an ex leader do that?
Money money money!!!
Money money money!!!
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Re: Most likely result of the general election in 2015?
The Tories have kicked off the unofficial general election with this billboard poster:-
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6WEmOCCAAAenm8.jpg
This might be closer to the truth:-
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6WskZ_CMAAGJ5R.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6WEmOCCAAAenm8.jpg
This might be closer to the truth:-
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6WskZ_CMAAGJ5R.jpg
Re: Most likely result of the general election in 2015?
Excellent Ivan, oh so close to the truth too, what a saddening sight/thought, the way they have treated me whilst in power this time, just put my name on one of those crosses on the roadside, as I will not last another 5years of them i'm afraid.
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Stuart Ivans picture tells exactly like it will be if people are daft enough to vote for the Tory LIES
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There will be a chance to see lots more examples on Twitter tonight after 6 p.m.
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2015 will be a year of political thrills – and colossal dangers
Extracts from an article by Polly Toynbee:-
"A year of pivotal political significance beckons, up there with 1945 or 1979. The election on 7 May risks setting an irreversible seal on a British future with a shrunken view of itself, its place in the world and the capacity or helplessness of its state to do anything much. Labour stays ahead, but who creeps over the line first depends on who votes where for the SNP, UKIP, Plaid or Green, how many votes will be wasted or not cast, leaving the country’s future in the hands of some 200,000 or so waverers in key marginals.
No one knows if the scrutiny of an election will strip away Nigel Farage’s Teflon coating: gripping a pint while ditching one embarrassing policy and candidate after another may wear thin. Or maybe not. And what a bitter irony if Scotland’s detestation of Tories leads to so many seats for the SNP that Cameron crosses the line first.
Those feeling alienated need to know that not voting is no protest: it’s a vote gifted to those you most detest. Some sneer that Ed Balls offers no more than 'austerity lite', so what’s the difference? The director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies says the difference in the parties’ tax and spending plans is greater than he can remember.
Many voters will be angry on 8 May, either because they wasted their vote on minor parties clocking up few seats, or because they wore a nose peg and chose the least worst of two parties. They may at last rise up against this unjust voting system and demand proportional representation, but by then it may be too late. A government lacking the consent of more than a third may have caused irreversible damage."
For the whole article:-
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/30/2015-year-political-election
Extracts from an article by Polly Toynbee:-
"A year of pivotal political significance beckons, up there with 1945 or 1979. The election on 7 May risks setting an irreversible seal on a British future with a shrunken view of itself, its place in the world and the capacity or helplessness of its state to do anything much. Labour stays ahead, but who creeps over the line first depends on who votes where for the SNP, UKIP, Plaid or Green, how many votes will be wasted or not cast, leaving the country’s future in the hands of some 200,000 or so waverers in key marginals.
No one knows if the scrutiny of an election will strip away Nigel Farage’s Teflon coating: gripping a pint while ditching one embarrassing policy and candidate after another may wear thin. Or maybe not. And what a bitter irony if Scotland’s detestation of Tories leads to so many seats for the SNP that Cameron crosses the line first.
Those feeling alienated need to know that not voting is no protest: it’s a vote gifted to those you most detest. Some sneer that Ed Balls offers no more than 'austerity lite', so what’s the difference? The director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies says the difference in the parties’ tax and spending plans is greater than he can remember.
Many voters will be angry on 8 May, either because they wasted their vote on minor parties clocking up few seats, or because they wore a nose peg and chose the least worst of two parties. They may at last rise up against this unjust voting system and demand proportional representation, but by then it may be too late. A government lacking the consent of more than a third may have caused irreversible damage."
For the whole article:-
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/30/2015-year-political-election
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Sorry Ivan but I thought the election was on May 15th not the 7th?
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Six million eligible voters not registered
Here's a figure which may make all the difference at the next General Election:
Six million eligible voters not registered, says Electoral Commission
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/dec/14/six-million-voters-unregistered
Six million eligible voters not registered, says Electoral Commission
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/dec/14/six-million-voters-unregistered
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That is why the Tories & Lib-Dems brought in the electoral reforms OW, knowing people living on the streets or in B&Bs would be unable to think about registering to vote with more important things on there mind
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PRECISELY Redflag, what address would you give whilst living on the street, and a different one each night.
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Re: Most likely result of the general election in 2015?
Some Tories think that the 2015 election will be just like the 1992 one, the last occasion that they won an outright majority. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking, but they see a small Labour lead in the polls (as there was in early 1992), and an opposition leader under constant attack from the Tory-friendly media (Neil Kinnock then, Ed Miliband now). Cameron has said he plans to dust down the ‘tax bombshell’ posters which Major used to smear Labour (before returning to power and putting up taxes more than any previous UK government in peacetime). George Eaton writes that the Tory “preoccupation with this previous triumph is a mark of weakness, not strength, indicative of a desire to fight past rather than present battles”.
There are many differences between 1992 and now. The pollsters have acknowledged that there was a 'shy Tory' factor in 1992 (voters unwilling to admit supporting the ‘nasty party’), and that the Tories may have been ahead all along. In the two decades that followed, pollsters adjusted their methodology. When the 1992 campaign started, John Major had only been PM and Tory leader for 16 months, so he still had a degree of ‘newness’ about him; Cameron has been PM for five years and Tory leader for over nine. A few months before the 1992 election, British involvement in the Gulf helped to end the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, and that could have helped Major.
If the press helped Major to victory in the 1992 election (‘The Sun’ claimed it was "we wot won it"), its influence has declined since. All newspapers have a smaller circulation than in the 1990s, and the readership of ‘The Sun’ is now less than half of what it was then. In addition, we now have social media to provide a semblance of balance. In 1992, Kinnock made himself look more like a rabble-rouser than a PM-in-waiting with his dreadful triumphalist behaviour at that Sheffield rally shortly before the election. If the Tories think that Ed Miliband will make a similar mistake, they can think again.
The Tories traditionally used to try to frighten voters into their arms with talk of a ‘red menace’. But as there are very few militant trade union leaders now, and it’s over twenty years since the end of the 'Cold War', the threat of the dangers of socialism won’t cut so much ice. The Tories still echo their past attempts at scaremongering with their ‘Red Ed’ jibe, but you’d have to be pretty far gone and distinctly swivel-eyed to fall for that claptrap.
Those who see parallels with 1992 overlook probably the most significant difference of all. The Tories entered that campaign with a parliamentary majority of 101 and, although they won the election, they lost 40 seats. They start this campaign without a majority at all. If they lose even 20-30 seats in May, they not only won’t win a majority but they won’t even be in a position to lead another coalition government.
For further reference:-
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/01/tories-are-wrong-assume-2015-1992-all-over-again
There are many differences between 1992 and now. The pollsters have acknowledged that there was a 'shy Tory' factor in 1992 (voters unwilling to admit supporting the ‘nasty party’), and that the Tories may have been ahead all along. In the two decades that followed, pollsters adjusted their methodology. When the 1992 campaign started, John Major had only been PM and Tory leader for 16 months, so he still had a degree of ‘newness’ about him; Cameron has been PM for five years and Tory leader for over nine. A few months before the 1992 election, British involvement in the Gulf helped to end the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, and that could have helped Major.
If the press helped Major to victory in the 1992 election (‘The Sun’ claimed it was "we wot won it"), its influence has declined since. All newspapers have a smaller circulation than in the 1990s, and the readership of ‘The Sun’ is now less than half of what it was then. In addition, we now have social media to provide a semblance of balance. In 1992, Kinnock made himself look more like a rabble-rouser than a PM-in-waiting with his dreadful triumphalist behaviour at that Sheffield rally shortly before the election. If the Tories think that Ed Miliband will make a similar mistake, they can think again.
The Tories traditionally used to try to frighten voters into their arms with talk of a ‘red menace’. But as there are very few militant trade union leaders now, and it’s over twenty years since the end of the 'Cold War', the threat of the dangers of socialism won’t cut so much ice. The Tories still echo their past attempts at scaremongering with their ‘Red Ed’ jibe, but you’d have to be pretty far gone and distinctly swivel-eyed to fall for that claptrap.
Those who see parallels with 1992 overlook probably the most significant difference of all. The Tories entered that campaign with a parliamentary majority of 101 and, although they won the election, they lost 40 seats. They start this campaign without a majority at all. If they lose even 20-30 seats in May, they not only won’t win a majority but they won’t even be in a position to lead another coalition government.
For further reference:-
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/01/tories-are-wrong-assume-2015-1992-all-over-again
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With all the nastiness the Tories have heaped on the low paid sick disabled & vulnerable the question is WHO is going to vote Tory in May Ivan, yes the bankers hedge fund managers and those that have squirrel away there money in off shore accounts will vote for them because they know if Tories get back into power there is more tax cuts on the horizon.
While the rest of us will face more cuts in our NHS public services & Welfare benefits, I tend to think there will be no more Welfare if the Tories get back into power, plus we have heard over the weekend we will not be able to go on strike because the Tories aare determined to finish off what Thatcher started.
While the rest of us will face more cuts in our NHS public services & Welfare benefits, I tend to think there will be no more Welfare if the Tories get back into power, plus we have heard over the weekend we will not be able to go on strike because the Tories aare determined to finish off what Thatcher started.
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Sounds so right i'm afraid Redflag.
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Russell Brand summed that one up: "Conservatism appeals to our selfishness and fear, our desire and self-interest".Redflag wrote:-
WHO is going to vote Tory in May
Or if you prefer 'no frills nastiness', there is UKIP.
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"Nice guys come last"
But we can at least show that to be untrue, when we cast the self-seeking Tories back into the outer darkness, with our votes next May.
But we can at least show that to be untrue, when we cast the self-seeking Tories back into the outer darkness, with our votes next May.
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You have put your finger on it fair and square OW, if people want a open honest fair gov't there is only one place to put your X and that is next to your Labour party MP.
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The polling form should only have one party on it to vote for, and that should obviously be the labour party, as that is the only decent party to vote for.
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Re: Most likely result of the general election in 2015?
Bet you also believe in Aliens .
I know the East Midlands is a landing place Hot Spot -- the Nottingham Hybrids or is that your Football team -- Forest , not County .
I know the East Midlands is a landing place Hot Spot -- the Nottingham Hybrids or is that your Football team -- Forest , not County .
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Neither of them, and I certainly do not believe in aliens.
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